Surprise AMA! 12/12/2020

hi everyone this is charles hoskinson broadcasting live from warm sunny colorado always warm always sunny sometimes colorado today is december 12th 2020 12 12 20 20. special day for somebody somewhere in the world and i decided i'd go ahead and do an ama why not it's fun huh yeah i like amaze a little cold outside since i put on my pacho yes i do have a good bad and ugly poncho i think it's an essential component of everybody's wardrobe and i hope you guys agree so anyway it's been a very long month very exhausting month a lot of stuff has happened tons of releases we've pushed out deadlifts 3.0 first time ever on deadlifts main net not just flight we have had we have hardware support for both ledger and trezor and i was playing around with it the other day sending out some transactions new iojk staking policy is is underway a lot of people ask what do we do to secure our data and actually the cold environment that we use we're probably gonna open source that so look for that coming weeks sam and i built it together we've been going back and forth about what to do there and i'm and it might be really cool to open source all those scripts and a live cd using nyx os so i think you guys will really enjoy it catalyst fun too is now open for voting that's a long time coming it's taken i think three months to get there so much pain has gone through that everything you can imagine that we've had to overcome from a team perspective has been has been done and i'm real proud of that team they they really got it over the line there's still a lot of little bugs and issues but the beautiful thing is that once we get through fun two fun three will be a lot better we'll have a nice voting center and daedalus and all this cool stuff and i very firmly believe that month by month that process is going to rapidly evolve and eventually get tens of thousands of people just found out today that the cardano effect is retiring this is their last episode today makes me really sad we were the first funder of the cardano effect we brought together sebastian rick and philippe and rick and philippe kept with it and we funded the first 76 episodes and then the cardano foundation took over funding for the remaining episodes and they had a real great run and felipe and rick are wonderful community members and they're part of the best in the cardano ecosystem and i can't wait to see what they do next and i can't wait to see who rises to the occasion and creates more podcasts and content highly specialized content about the ecosystem and i think many people are going to do that and in not just english but in many languages so overall things are looking pretty good devnet's likely next week for the kevm devnet they are right now devops hell just getting all the final stuff prepped and primed and ready to go we updated the 2018 code base that we had when we did the early alpha of the dead nets when we were just testing kevm and yella to the 2020 mantis code base that we released for theorem classic so we get to reuse that code we could reuse all the tooling and monitoring and it was a herculean effort to be able to do both and release both at the same time as some of december 9th we actually launched the new mantis to some great fanfare and claim people really enjoy it the sagano test net with it to show off some capabilities and features functionality so real happy there glow is looking good too and we're real happy to be working with mutual knowledge systems francoise team has been incredibly diligent despite the fact that they're not very large they've been working 24 7 to get a lot of stuff done and a lot of people are getting very excited about blow so much more to report much more development going on we've been moving we've been pushing and we're just trying to get as much as we can down this side of christmas then christmas break comes in we have a skeleton crew we don't try to release anything after december 15th it's super super important to hold back a little bit there and then come january we pick it right up where we left off and keep pushing keep releasing keep updating we should have a trezor and ledger firmware update sometime january was supposed to come in december november there were some issues on their end for other update windows and so we had to wait a little bit but there's some new features functionality coming to ledger and trezor which you should be able to use in daedalus so look for that as well and we'll just keep updating dallas i keep pushing for the identity center i keep pushing for multisig i keep pushing for paper wallets and these things and cracking the drum there's just so many features and so much to do that we're gonna get there hybrid wallets as well and partial delegation as well that's a quarter one thing but it'll get there it's real important that we get that finished let's see here d parameter keeps decrementing we're still on target for full decentralization by march and peer-to-peer keeps turning on so we're still on target for that by march as well so all things considered we're well on our way forward liftoff not bad huh all right let's get to your questions pledge from daedalus ledger nanox from pm yes that is one of my goals led your life staking soon i'd love to see that there was some commercial negotiations between the cardano foundation and ledger for getting ledger live support it's a little expensive and they've been going back and forth on that and so hopefully hopefully they'll be able to get that done it was a lot easier with trezor but ledger life's a great interface i really it myself and it's actually using it yesterday from marcos santos anything about africa we are going to have an africa special kind of sounds a line of pot doesn't it we're going to have an africa special episode where we talk about all the cool interesting things that we're doing there and announce some cool deals dude what are you wearing a dead deer no it's a poncho sir it's a very nice poncho from tom hi charles what are cardano's plans for multisig looking to better secure things we are actively working on a multisig coordination server and multithick is fully supported on the command line so at the moment you can use multisig through a command line but the user experience isn't so good so we are implementing a coordination server and we are implementing an interface for daedalus so multisig will come to daedalus i'd also like to do hardware multisig as well so we're in discussions about how to do that on a ledger and trezor which i think is the highest level of assurance that you can get what the hell is going on with coinbase you wrote some on twitter some stuff could you explain coinbase a large company a lot of things going on you talk to them on the left side and the right side does something completely different i we have great relationship with them we fully implemented rosetta support there's a lot of little things we do obviously you guys know that we use them as the custodian we're still waiting for staking support there and we're trying to augment rosetta to do that and i was just perplexed on this one article it was an ethereum killer article and they mentioned polkadot but they neglected to mention cardano it's just strange i think it's just an issue of user education and a lot of these journalists for some reason are still not familiar with cardano and we work very hard to try to educate them but 2021 that's just never going to happen again it's our year because everything's turned on and we're going to set it all out there and remember they're a very large company and so there's whenever you deal with that left hand don't know what the right hand is doing what's the relationship between rosette and coinbase rosetta is the framework that coinbase uses for the tokens on its platform both on custody and listed it's an open source framework that they came up with and it's a really really good way of approaching exchange wallets for for listing and for custody how's the ergo stable coin thing going quite well actually i have a meeting about it i think before the end of the year and mergo and ergo are doing interesting stuff and bruno paleo's doing interesting stunts thoughts on standing desks my secretary uses one michael and he likes it a lot of people have met it you'll catch me dead using a standing desk i like to sit thoughts on the floyd mayweather versus logan paul matchup mayweather is going to win and it's a travesty of boxing and just on that there were years and years and years of waiting to get the manny pacquiao mayweather fight and they waited until when they're both too old for it to be an exciting fight yet logan paul super easy to do this is what boxing has come to it's just all exhibitions from nico charles i message you regarding adaptive and algorithmic music for games how's your game going i'm glad you asked so right now i'm vetting one of our first hires for my game company and it goes by the name martin and i give him a bunch of stuff to do and we'll see if we can negotiate work something out but he's a little older and he's going to come in as one of the game designers and game architects and he worked with gary gygax and wrote a whole game system with garrett gagax as one of the creators of dungeons and dragons so right now what he's doing is he's systematically going through legends of valor which is the game i bought and he's basically writing down everything that's wrong with it all the game mechanics that need to be updated and so forth so what we're going to do is a two-stage process to resurrect this game the first is that we're going to do an enhanced edition for the game so an enhanced edition is like baldur's gate enhanced edition from bbjob studios of bean dog studios and there they just took the original game and they updated it so it would run on modern pcs and then they added a lot of things that would be present if the game was made today just for playability usability the problem is that legends of valor really was not made in a time where standard rpg mechanics had solidified yet so there's no journal system quest system there's no persistent mapping system there's no level system experience system the combat and magic system are incredibly primitive the the the hud is extremely primitive as well and as a consequence there's just massive things missing that even if i was just updated so you guys could play it it wouldn't be a fun experience because we just expect so much to be there now when i was a young kid we didn't have any of that so okay it was great but nowadays we have to be realistic and reasonable second i disassembled the code using something called cahedra which is a disassembler that the nsa uses it's now an open source project and we thoroughly examined the source code to try to see if we could resurrect the source code important very at least understand all the artifacts the dialogue trees the things the bitmaps and art and these things and almost nothing is reusable so we know the whole plot we get the structure of these things but everything's just gonna have to be built from scratch so for the enhanced edition what we're gonna do is backfill in all the missing gameplay mechanics but create a spiritual enhancement that functionally is the same game obviously massively improved for playability we're going to write that in javascript and use something called babylon.js and make that a browser game and make it a cell phone game and a desktop game as a note application and i think we can do a lot of really good work there and build something great and probably we're going to do it as an open source project so basically we'll do like six week sprints eight week sprints it's almost an early release title and over a period of time 12 months or so to 16 months once full development has started we should be able to build that game out now i'd be really excited for some blockchain based components as well for example non-fungible assets or these things and make them blockchain based and pull them in it's basically learning how to bring a video game to market and i've been talking to some people next instead of michigan state university who do game development just to kind of learn the dynamics of that business i know software and i know mathematics so i do business stuff i even grow mushrooms but i'm not a game developer so there's a whole thing there to do so that's the enhanced edition and hopefully we can do the collaborative open source project and build a great community around it and just learn how to do that once that's done the next step will be to do a remastery and a complete redesign to rewrite and i have over 100 pages of things that i've notes that i've kept throughout the years of what i want to do so that is going to be a totally new game and we're going to make it a triple a game use a middleware graphics engine kind of like unreal or something of that so you can do a aaa game and do a cross deployment across playstation xbox and pc and build it just like any other aaa game and we'll probably do a really cool crowdfund and we might do a drm system using blockchain and a litany of other things to kind of merge gaming and crypto together so i think it's going to be a lot of fun and basically the first exercise is just something to learn how to get there and then of course we'll build that game in a high performance programming language specifically for game software probably not javascript so your specific question is adaptive algorithmic music where would that fit in this line the first project the enhanced edition there was no soundtrack for legends of valor this was before that they commonly put music in games that's how old it is so we'd have to completely do redo the audio engineering and music it would be fun to experiment with algorithmic music at that juncture so we will definitely look at it i think there's a lot of really cool things that can be done both on the sound effects and also in the game soundtrack and that asset pipeline can be made quite unique and probably machine assisted the same for generative dialogue so that's where we're at there and really excited to see what martin comes up with gary geigs was a legend he's now departed but was one of the the greatest minds in role-playing games the last 50 years i'm really a pioneer in the entire field so to work with somebody who knew him on a first name basis and built a game system with him is going to be a really fun endeavor there's an interesting one dr corey's team discovered vaccine excuse me virus cure and that is for i think it's intermeson or something like that it's an anti i can't remember the exact name it's an anti-parasite drug and it's used very common in fact we use it here for my horses because they deworm them with it and it's been shown that the drug actually stops replication of rna viruses and so people have studied it for use with hiv they've studied it for use with influenza and other things and it has a reasonable side effect profile and so a lot of people think it might be reasonable to use it as a prophylaxis for people who are in constant exposure to coping school teachers frontline workers these types of things and it may actually have some clinical efficacy for those of you who don't know corey is a critical care pulmonologist and he founded an organization that specializes in coming up with an evidence-based treatment profile for covet patients pulmonologists are the ones who have the [ __ ] stick in this pandemic they're the ones who are working 12 hours a day in the icu because by the time the patient needs to see a pulmonologist they're either ventilated or they're having so much difficulty breathing that they have a very high mortality rate some cases greater than 50 depending upon the group so they're the ones who are desperate for relief and looking for things to treat things and he and his colleagues put together a 28-page docket of information and submitted it to the fda and have been making a lot of noise about this particular drug and what they believe is that if it was to be prescribed proactively and used early in the treatment it would massively reduce mortality we've seen with dexamethasone and other drugs and there's actually a great degree of evidence to support that what's really nasty however is that anyone who's been talking about this has been censored there's been a lot of de-platforming a lot of people shouting fake news or taking down videos on youtube and twitter which is extraordinary to me it's a cheap drug it's been around for quite some time it's already been used in different antiviral contexts and the mechanism action does make some sense and given that doctors on the front line are using it and many countries are actually using it and seeing as up to 30 reduction in mortality like vitamin d you'd say that this is a significant therapeutic intervention that really can help people out what's troubling to me is that the fda was quick to approve rem deserver which upon a full preponderance of the medical evidence of rem de sevier has shown that it's not particularly efficacious for almost all patients there might be some categories where mortality is slightly reduced but not as much as vitamin d or other things with observational studies so why would you approve a very complex difficult to manufacture expensive drug that i think is five thousand dollars for treatment when you have an anti parasitic that's been on market for a long time that i can go and buy for my horses and it's commonly used in our culture and and in developing countries in fact the discoverer of this drug i believe won a nobel prize in medicine i'll have to check that so anyway i wouldn't say it's a cure that nothing cures a virus it's a therapeutic intervention and the question is is it effective and safe given that it's already an fda approved drug i it seems safe or at least as safe as the fda is willing to say for standard treatments is it effective well the only way to know that is through double-blind placebo-controlled studies that said emergency use authorization has been given for dubious things like convalescent blood plasma so it makes perfect sense to give doctors the discretion there and through observational studies see if it works or not but that's the reason why i'm not a doctor or policymaker i make video games and let me tell you something people say cure cure cure cure there is no such thing as a cure get that out of your head everybody likes to believe that if a drug just works for them somehow it's universal medicine is very complicated and the reality is that there's a lot of conflation of circumstantial evidence with causal evidence so for example if you take a drug and then die the next day of a heart attack many people will have a temptation to say you died of the heart attack because the drop could be completely unrelated absolutely completely unrelated or it could be causal and that's why medicine's so complex and there's a whole field of inquiry that does nothing but try to figure out is this causing this or not it's a game of numbers and time you need large diverse sets of numbers and you need lots of time to be able to gradually get to a point where you say something is effective and something is safe and there's all kinds of things that are quite safe but not effective things that are effective but not quite safe and then there's a case-by-case basis for example the treatment of cancer there's many things that are done to patients which are quite damaging to them from chemotherapy to other such things but we deem it necessary because the alternative is more of certain death so you say okay what do you got to lose but that would not be the normal treatment protocol but these vaccines are another example of that in a lesser sense because the side effect profile of especially these mrna vaccines is too aggressive if it was a normal flu vaccine it would be a commercial dot nobody wants to get a vaccine when they get injected and there's a day or two of headaches and fatigue and really sore arm and chills one person the chills were so bad it cracked a tooth that's just not something that you would under normal circumstance for a normal disease rush through you would say we need to change the dosage we need to change the the schedule maybe do three shots and reduce the dose or change the formula because we're getting too many adverse reactions under emergency usa authorization perfectly fine because they take that in proportion to what they're seeing with covet in larger populations and yes covet for certain groups is horrible especially long coping you could permanently lose your taste there's all kinds of heart neurological issues vasculitis if you're 75 years old would you rather take fever and chills for two days or potentially being ventilated or permanent lung damage it's a no-brainer but for normal disease this would just not happen so everything is proportional in medicine as well and it's important to understand that so for either mech then this is just another example where you say we give it to a large group of people is going to hurt them probably not for the vast majority of them just depends on the individuals and the drug drug interactions it doesn't play well with steroids which is problematic because steroids are used in the standard treatment protocol but does it have a chance to help them maybe it does maybe it doesn't but then there's a lot of things help them at one intervention help them early in the disease onset later in the disease onset when they've become a critical care hospitalized icu patient help them before they get the disease preventing them from getting disease wearing that therapeutic window there's no such thing as cure you have to ask all those questions and think about it and it's real difficult charles you agree with frederick first test local before going to africa looks you've had your thoughts i've been in africa for three years africa is local for me i have an office there we have local employees we know government officials on a first name basis we got a great strategy it's working quite well the point of diversity is that you can execute different strategies in parallel so the foundation has a strategy a mergo has a strategy for example mergo's in india they're in indonesia malaysia they're all across asia we're heavily in africa and eastern europe and the united states and the foundation obviously has because of the people who are there a good chance of making fortune 500 progress we can all do that in parallel so why not we don't have to make any compromises what's the relationship with the european union bank names are projects on the way i've talked to the eba we've talked to people in the uk the fca and so forth it's a too big of an organization i mean we get funded from the eu we read grant recipient horizons 2020 program and there's a lot of great capital there and there's an overwhelming amount of demand for different things so there'll be natural growth there and i think that specialized entities will be able to get things done a lot of development of cardano that's also done in the eu from mark adra ghana is watching you charles we staking ada here all right acura is a beautiful city ghana is one of the most beautiful countries in the world if you have a chance to go there wonderful food great people very friendly i went there because once i went to a ghanaian reggae bar in osaka japan and i said boy i've never been to this country but if the people are as friendly as this guy's eddie's bar i should go and i went and they blew me away so i'm very glad to see we have a community there and next year i will drop by charles i know you're unable to provide timelines but could you update the community if the dev test devnet is looking good for the december 15th release i think it is looking good i'll find out more on monday and we'll find see where we we sit but it is certainly going to be an all hands on deck thing to get done before the christmas break super super super super super important to me that we get the devnets done this side of christmas and we're even setting up dedicated support people to assist not only with bugs and issues but also develop assistance including some solidity developers to help people with their first line of apps so very important to me and i really do want to get it done do you still plan to make another security foundations video absolutely now that i plan to make it given that we're developing a special environment for key management i think that i might update that video a little bit with a really cool really cool ideas so give me a bit and we'll do something fun with it okay charles asking true that the reason why no coinbase listing is due to a high fee coinbase does not charge to list tokens it's completely at their discretion and there's nothing about that and the decisions these things will happen at some point do you study medicine i still keep up with a lot of things in the medical community and i come from a long line of physicians my uncle's infectious disease doctor dad's a doctor brothers a doctor a grandfather was a doctor i almost became one i did a lot of stuff you were supposed to do to walk down that road but i decided to do different things in life but i always kept awareness of medicine and close to the heart and i think we all would benefit by knowing a little bit about medicine as a field and realities of it any partnerships before 2021 yes still got a few things left have you commented on cardano be included in bitwise 10. as i said this is going to happen it's a very organic and natural thing right now there's there's two big institutional investment macro trends that we're seeing one is just the acknowledgement that cryptocurrencies are a viable asset class that they're allowed to hold and the entry point there is usually bitcoin as a gold alternative so where they normally would have a commodity like gold they start using bitcoin as a store of value or in addition to that so that's like michael saylor and these other big guys like paul tudor johnson and these guys okay then the next level after they reach that beach head and they've come in is saying well hang on a second here there's a war going on between proof of work and proof of stake and we believe that while proof of work still preserves most of the value in the crypto realm the cryptoscape that a large amount of money is going to move from proof of work coins into proof of stake coins okay so then there's a question of who are the winners in that bucket and that's going to be a portfolio so there's going to be polka dot and s2 and eos and tazos and yes cardano and it's just a matter of well when they create that portfolio do they do five percent data or 10 data these are the kinds of institutional discussions that are happening right now and this is where i think organizations like cardano foundation could be very useful having somebody in the investment relations world to kind of help discuss how those regulated products should be properly risked and allocated as people start moving from one side to the other side so bitwise 10 is a good example that whites is another example just a ratings agency creating a rating system you need this for the markets in order to risk themselves and properly diversify who are the guys in the photo behind you that's the album cover for pink floyd's wish you were here it's my favorite album from them do you actively talk to billionaires about cardano oh i do many many many of them more than 11.

are you personally afraid of getting copic no one of the things that you learn when you travel abroad especially to developing countries that have endemic diseases that are are quite nasty i've been throughout africa there they have malaria and things like loss of fever and all kinds of horrible things that are quite bad like there are certain places where they have honda virus outbreaks and 30 mortality rate is you develop a sense of proportionality and you say okay for me the things i do am i high risk mid risk low risk and if i do contract this what's the progression look and honestly how problematic is this going to be for me now 33 years old reasonably good shape reasonably healthy and my nutrition's good take my vitamin d so if i was to contract covet the odds are i would barely notice it that's just the fact most people who contracted are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms as we are seeing through antibody analysis and extrapolation now the problem is that we live in a media environment where fear porn has been turned up to 11 and they have convinced every single person they can that if you contract covet it's going to leave permanent devastating damage to you and even if you survive you're gonna have long covet lose your taste not be able to get out of bed not be able to go about to the bathroom without assistance there's a middle ground between recognizing proportionality and risk to yourself and living in this fear bizarro world where we have to fear each other and everybody's out to get you and so forth and it's just saying okay reasonable precautions can be taken until the high risk individuals are de-risked then it does make sense to have some preventive health measures for their protection okay and they don't have to be draconian it can just simply be avoid large gatherings wash hands wear a mask these types of things and if we just did that it would slow the spread of the disease to a point where therapeutics and vaccination programs can completely de-risk the at-risk people in which case those preventive measures those slow spread measures are no longer necessary and they should go away the problem is that we just can't do that as a society and there's just too much loss of trust in institutions there's too much anger and then there's too much double standard that exists if you have a family member die you can't have a large funeral when a civil rights leader dies they can have a ten thousand person funeral when you wanna get your hair cut and cleaned and styled you can't go to the hair salon but political leaders can you can't have thanksgiving but political leaders can you can't travel but political leaders can go to cabo and there are hundreds of these examples throughout we can't have large gatherings unless they're politically motivated with one particular ideology of another ideology you're going to die of the virus it's a super spreading event if it's another ideology totally fine knock out a public health problem and so forth when you politicize an event you lose the ability to manage the event because no matter what makes sense from a common sense in a practical everyday mechanism you now have to look at everything through a political lens and if whatever you're told doesn't agree with the political ideology you hold everything goes to hell and all authority figures lose all credibility and this is the greatest tragedy i think of copen there were ways in the early days of this pandemic to be able to mitigate it to a point where it would have not been problematic as taiwan did in vietnam did in other nations like new zealand did do that now is basic facts like if you inoculate vaccinate everybody over the age of 55 just do that 92 of those who die will no longer die just that one thing and those are numbers from the centers for disease control you look at the raw covalent mortality rate how many of you point out oh well how do we know those are real covet deaths because if you die covet positive regardless of how you died that's still reported as a covet death another example of politicization another example of distrust in institutions it's actually a valid concern you should separate statistics and look at people whose primary cause of death was covered versus statistics where they happened to be covered positive while they died and they tell a very different story actually when that's done that said this is still a nasty disease you have to live in the middle when you look at these things it does exist and for those who have problems with it they're horrendous and they're still people who wear oxygen nine months after catching it there's still people who their taste hasn't returned there's still people with heart damage there's still people with brain damage and other problems and these are terrible terrible problems and we're gonna have hundreds of thousands of people running around after this pandemic is over in the united states who have permanent disabilities as a consequence of contracting coping not a good situation at all so it does exist and it is a problem but there is proportionality and the shaming the the brutal attacks that people have done the virtue signaling of well you're not wearing a mask governor of wyoming got covered they brutally attacked him the governor of colorado was always wearing a mask and always he and his husband both got covet you just it's a it's a highly infectious novel viral agent with avian flu a 90 million americans were infected everybody gets infected with these things mask or not just slows the spread down i think in the future we need to take a step back and say moving forward what is the long-term social response to this first off any pandemic causing pathogen the vast majority of them can be vaccinated against as a consequence we can pre-make all the one and two clinical trials for most of those so that if we ever get into a pandemic we can bring a vaccine to market in three to four months second we need to have an honest conversation in the united states about vaccine hesitancy some of this is propaganda spread by russians and chinese and other actors specifically to attempt to damage society because they understand if we retired in vaccine rates what that means is that we're going to have a slower economic recovery so it's a high impact low cost attack so you just spread bunch of junk the vaccines kill people the vaccines cause cancer the vaccines cause hiv the vaccines change your genes the vaccines are part of a new world order conspiracy the vaccines are going to cause permanent health consequences and so forth and a lot of people just deeply deeply deeply believe that some people for religious reason they say oh the vaccines have fetal dna and tissue and other things in them how would an mrna vaccine have that makes no sense at all you make them synthetically in a lab they have nothing to do with that but we have catholic bishops saying that to the parishioners and saying you cannot get inoculated pieces against our religious principles so we have to have a serious national conversation and the reality is that we will not be able to restore trust in these things until institutional trust is restored so vaccine hesitancy is a symptom not a root cause of a broader social problem if people just simply don't trust their government and to be frank why should they the us government in particular has repeatedly lied to all of us again and again and again and again from the iraq war weapons of mass destruction oh well i guess they didn't have that to obamacare if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor there's a million lies small and large and it's gotten to a point where there's bipartisan agreement that our institutions are pathological liars and there's no accountability and when they commit problems they they create issues there's no punishment for that so they say let's say there's a five percent chance that these vaccines are problematic if that is the case there's no liability nobody will go to jail no one will go out of business no politician will lose their job he'll just move on say oh well you can't operate a society where people are given a mandate to lie to the mainstream they get away with that and then when their lies result in harm or damage to society there's no recourse for that that's how you get a civil war and that's where we're marching towards it's every election cycle that gets worse and worse and worse so above and beyond what we need to do to get out of this the next thing we need to do is really have a serious conversation about institutions and how the hell are we going to restore faith in institutions is that even possible or not and number three i think everybody has to be aware that the world is complex and nuanced and we do need institutions to navigate it in the olden days before mainstream society we had religion that was the anchor that allowed people to navigate complex existence why did this happen because god said so good or bad yeah the dark ages these i think they had a religious way of looking at the world for scientific medical political and economic and warfare consequences okay then we moved into the enlightenment and then suddenly society i said to figure out complexity you have to use a scientific method and you have to use thinking tools and deductive reasoning and you can gradually put pieces together and figure out how things are running we have now moved to a post enlightenment where the world has become too complex for anyone to understand i can't understand it bill gates can't understand it even musk can't understand it it's too complex and interdependent interconnected okay there's so much going on cosmological things going on aerospace things going on biological things that computer science the rate of innovation is doubling every 18 months it's crazy there's too much data the point of institutions is to handle that complexity you create institutions to manage and handle complexity i build a business to do business at a scale that i cannot do i build a hospital to provide medical care to people on a scale that a doctor cannot do okay small large gargantuan institutions are there to get things done people don't trust institutions there's a social regression and what they need to do then is look at complex things as simple and get black and white answers cure no care lethal not lethal enemy friend in my camp out of my camp good actor bad actor and you can't do that you'll have a horrible outcome if you go down that way and you end up having highly polarized people who dunning krueger their way throughout life and they end up hating each other for crazy reasons and just honestly deep in their core believing that the world works in a very simple way it does not so it is super important for the durability and survivability of the human race we find a way to restore faith in institutions so that we can deal with the complexity of the 21st century and if we cannot do that well then we're done as a species the only way to manage society will be extinction or dictatorship [Music] that's a good question how do you explain the cardinal project its mission in a few minutes does someone not engage in the cryptocurrency space or even the financial sector i think the easiest way of explaining it is that the world is going through an upgrade where we're going to go from a split system to a unified system right now we have two systems the develop world and developing world system the develop world system has banks insurance credit it has identity you can do business online you can build trust with people manage risk and be able to grow wealth so any person born in a developed world country if they work very hard has a good chance of getting to a point where they can retire and have a good life that means a life where they have food water shelter they're able to pursue things that make them happy and have enough left over that when they become weak and vulnerable their savings can cover them to pay for those infirmities when you look at the developing world for no fault of their own they live in systems where wealth creation is very difficult even if you have some of it because you can't insure it and hedge it when an event happens be a war or natural event a hurricane or a tsunami they get completely wiped out so the world is upgrading so that we'll have a unified system where all seven billion people eight billion people live under one financial operating system so your identity is interoperable and universal you can get a loan no matter who you are where you at you can get insurance no matter where you're at you can do business with anyone in the world in a friction free way the point of cardano is to acknowledge that this must be done with principles so what are we trying to accomplish we're trying to push power to the edges and put you in charge of your own money put you in charge of your own identity put you in charge of your own voice and give you governance and these types of things so that when we get to that universal system we get to an open decentralized principled system that can't be co-opted highly resilient to people try to come and tamper with it and then suddenly the richest people in the world the jeff bezos of the world will use the same system as the poorest people in the world and both of them will have a better system than the system that came before it in both of those old systems that's what we're trying to accomplish that's not a short answer charles well she said a few minutes that was a few minutes yes is chronos implemented this always happens with molten tar monster number three so when chico crypto does a video he'll criticize some arbitrary part of our system and the criticism's just out there and he's oh well we use a central clock and and that central clock is not used by polka dot therefore cardano bat well so does f2 ntp and these things it if they break the entire internet breaks so don't you think that's reliable infrastructure that's going to be around and useful and there are of course many recovery mechanisms if there was an mtp problem it is not a practical vector of attack for a reasonable scale system now we'd like to be reliant on no thing and no one and as decentralized as possible so we were the first to address this in the very first paper of its kind with something called orbor's chronos but it would be an unnecessary diversion to just go and chase three months of implementation to pull chronos in when we don't need it as a system right now there's still federation in the system you still have oh bft nodes working with the stake pools and making some of the blocks so until march you still have that reality you still have relay nodes and these types there's an order process that you have to go through the other thing is that chronos should be implemented with redux should be implemented with genesis and should be implemented with fast finality and high throughput enhancements to the system so aurabor is too a rollup of all the research that we've done which will make it considerably better than anything in market so the name of deployment execution is saying what is a problem today what's a theoretical but unlikely issue versus what is a practical and certainly problematic issue to resolve and understand how to balance things and create a roadmap accordingly youtube jockeys don't do that for a living they just sit get a surface level understanding of something and brutally attack people based on that surface understanding for example it's analysis of mantis oh there's only nine notes running mantis was never released as a production system it was always a proof of concept experiment and we got the code base to a point where people could use it but we never released it as a product we never prioritized it we never advertised it so that's like saying oh well this experiment you did in the lab no one is using that experiment well yeah it's a lab experiment it's a proof of concept to demonstrate we could do something and we're reusing it in different things like for example with the devnets and now we're for the first time ever actually productizing mantis and bringing it out into ethereum classic was that mentioned no because this is what a youtube jockey does they take a small sliver of something and then try to convince you that is everything and leave out key facts that would radically change the entire story and argument and any person who listens to him at this point shame on you you're the idiot not him he knows exactly what he's doing and he knows how to do that to mess with people it's 2020. we've been working on cardano since 2015. first time i've ever heard anybody complain about the clock we wrote the first paper about it this is distributed systems conversation the very first paper that leslie lamport wrote i think the 1960s was on clocks it's a very very well understood long arc problem in systems theory distributed systems theory and it just blows my mind that a youtube jockey can make a video and then i get asked over and over what are you going to do about this centralized clock oh my god it's as if like there's one server out there and that server goes down and cardano goes down no no you idiots that's not the case that's not how it works at all and if the internet breaks then how does cardano run at all because your isps go down so what you have your own isp and they say oh but we need to be decentralized and everything what if there's a hardware backdoor inside your intel processor and your amd processor i guess we should go to risk five and only deploy there but how can we trust the fabricator yeah well we gotta make our own processors we gotta fabricate them ourselves but how do we know that the raw materials are right well let's go to the beach grab our own sand off of it and dope our own silicon i mean how insane do you want to be going down this road you need some notion of trust somewhere either in your operating system your hardware that the internet is going to work properly especially core protocols that run the entire internet and if you don't have any of that trust crypto doesn't work for bitcoin or for any of these systems sorry it just doesn't work your secret keys can't be kept private so you might as well just buy gold and not have a computer all around and live the unabomber in montana hmm from jean franco diaz he says hi charles would you say an ai singularity is a concern a lot of bright people seem to think that this example of what we term existential technology okay in the 20th century the very first existential technology invented were nuclear weapons the first time ever we had a platform that if it was misused would end in the extinction of the entire human race or such a radical destruction it would set us back an asteroid would set us back or something like that or a super volcano going off it would really end the world and in the 21st century we see multiple existential concerns at the same time coronavirus has really made it clear to the world that pandemics happen and we as a species have gotten super lucky that the pandemics of the last two centuries have been relatively mild okay spanish flu oh it's 20 million people okay but it's only a few percentage points of the global population all right we had the misfortune that was spread on the back of world war so really got it out there but the black death in the 14th century it killed over a period of a few hundred years a third of the entire population of europe a third line up three people one dies okay very bad situation so historically there's been smallpox pandemics there's been all kinds of things the famous plagues in athens during the peloponnesian war or the justinian plague when he was trying to reconquer western europe all of these things have been just devastating to mankind and actually during marcus aurelius there was a smallpox outbreak that probably was one of the principal reasons for the long-term decline of the western roman empire so existential concern what happens when crispr and genetic engineering these things come into play and it's really low cost for a small team of people five people to have a conspiracy and invent in a lab a virus that is as lethal as ebola but has the contagion and spreading dynamics of corona or measles okay what if you build in that it takes a real long time to three weeks while you're infectious but asymptomatic that tail would be absolutely catastrophic because by the time it kills you you've already spread it to 16 people or 17 people and then keeps going and keeps going and it just spreads the world like wildfire strategically released so biotech is getting a point where it could be existential there's things called gene drives that can permanently alter the genome of an entire species and for example they're experimenting with mosquitoes to exterminate them this way you could sterilize an entire species in a few generations set by technology then you have nanotech and there's a whole collection of existential technologies that will become evident in the 21st century ai is an existential technology at some point we'll reach a threshold where an ai gets enough capabilities that it is able to start doing what it's told to do in ways that could be counterproductive to us so stuart russell writes a lot about this and in his books he did the bible of a.i but then he also wrote a great book the title escapes me for the moment which discusses the i think it's the problem of control it discusses basically how do you build a useful ai that does the things that we have objectives around but doesn't go ahead and optimize in ways to harm humanity the great goo problem or these types of things so i think it's a huge concern and it's an undervalued thing humans tend to underestimate and be myopic to longer term existential problems and they tend to overestimate and overreact to local concerns in the time horizon we have invested more effort into coronavirus than in any other human endeavor since world war ii collectively the threat of coronavirus is miniscule to the threat of artificial intelligence but no one talks about it on a global scale so it's a definite concern because we don't have the right people in the room governments are not aligned in a way and incentives are built in a way to have private siloed ai's that will eventually evolve to a point where they cause existential problems for people and there are other existential technologies as well space faring and asteroid mining for example eventually the work the point where somebody can tow an asteroid from the asteroid belt and crash it to earth if they wanted to that could end the entire human species actually and all species on the planet that's what got the dinosaurs so all kinds of things could be done and 21st century is the first century where we have technology to go down that road we also have these issues with transhumanism where people begin augmenting themselves like for example brain computer interfaces and genetic engineering it's like gattaca meets cyberpunk and it's gonna be it's gonna be a wild ride and if your social systems can't account for that the strife and unrest of meta-humans is going to cause huge problems in the 21st century as great people like evol harare write about it and a lot of good philosophers write about it as well and unfortunately governments are not structured in a way to actually be able to deal with these problems charles thoughts on wall street listing futures on water first time ever when mad max i am buying an atmospheric water generator it does 50 000 liters per day i have 250 kilowatts of solar capacity i'm installing here on the farm and i'll be able to make my own water i just don't trust government anymore they're just incompetent and evil and they just do horrible things and so i have no faith in their ability to ensure proper supply chains and so i'm in a position economically where i can protect myself and those i care about but it just makes me sad water is a human right there's nothing more fundamental than that than perhaps error and the fact that it's being turned into a commodity and now we're going to have water scarcity when seventy percent of the planets covered by it it's really just an energy question is extraordinary to me absolutely extraordinary to me and disgusting and it's another example of colossal mismanagement galen asks hi charles do you like magnets i do in fact i am creating a feral magnetic fluid sculpture for the iog office here in colorado and we're going to start working on that in march it's going to be a lot of fun ferromagnetic fluid for those of you don't know it's black fluid that has a lot of iron in it and when you run a magnetic field with it it actually changes shape and form and you can build beautiful sculptures with it it's used in dynamic suspension systems and it was created by nasa for the the moon rover way back in the day hi charles from cebu philippines glad to see that we have some filipinos in the audience glad i caught this one live well i'm glad that you did another example of the things i was mentioning earlier vaccines kill right loss of trust in institutions does this i really sincerely believe this person absolutely believes that just believes it to their core and read a lot of stuff and did his research and there's no way you can convince them it's lost they're propagandized bees on the ranch yes i am planning on actually having some hives my father works with an endocrinologist who does honey mead he's one of the top guys in wyoming to do that and so next time when i go on up and i'll see if i can arrange a time to go sit down with them and talk about a culture we also because we are in ethiopia have a lot of exposure there they have a honey honey wine that they make there so there's a huge amount of bee and honey production and ethiopia is one of the few countries where there's a net increase in the bee population instead of a decrease vaccines do cause death in a small number of patients okay how many if you're aware of statistic or you honestly believe that then how many and if you have to go back 70 years to a polio trial where a few people died to say that that's indicative of all vaccinations you're an idiot just don't get it the reality is that most vaccines cause no problems at all for society and there are certain vaccines that have been made that probably are a little difficult like bio-thrax for anthrax yellow fever vaccine rabies vaccinations they're problematic but they don't normally kill you the vast majority of people receive them have no problem at all we inoculate hundreds of millions of people every year in the united states for a variety of things from tetanus to the flu if they're poison then should we all be dying at this point and when you believe these things again no proportionality go back to the 19th century with measles mumps rubella all the childhood ailments all of the communicable diseases that we didn't have the ability to vaccinate away it was a fact of life as a parent you would have to have seven kids because three or four of them would die before the age of 18 from these types of conditions especially in urbanized locations that was human existence that was human life in that time period it's been a miracle vaccination mass vaccination absolute miracle and people are so convinced that these things are poison not in my body you put things in your body every single day most of the time much higher risk how do your alcohol was properly manufactured well i trust the company what vaccines are made by big multinational companies your alcohol usually is too how do your food is high quality well the fda regulates that protects me but they regulate vaccines so the new world order the cabal is really interested to make sure the vaccines are toxic and destroy you and sterilize you and kill your kids and give you autism but they'll let the food supply be okay unless you're completely conspiratorial in which case no the food is poisoned too so you have to grow your own food come on you get in your car how do your car is going to work how do your brakes going to work oh there's regulation well you can't trust the government regulators not working no no your brakes gonna break any time and they're evil corporations so you're gonna hit it you're gonna be on the highway they're not gonna work you're gonna go and die or a hacker will hack into your car take it over and kill you okay risk is proportional they say oh but liability liability what do we do what do we do okay you want expensive vaccines or you want cheap vaccines you want cheap vaccines you're going to have to have a different liability structure you want expensive vaccines built into the cost of the vaccination is the ability to deal with it because here's what happens person gets vaccinated the next day they die of a heart attack the family says the vaccine caused the heart attack there's no medical evidence of it some of them will sue the vaccine manufacturer if there's no profit in vaccination or low profit vaccination 50 000 of those cases every year on a global scale are enough to bog down a small to mid-sized vaccine company in litigation so you need to provide liability protection to them if you want mass vaccination otherwise you have to let them charge five hundred dollars a dose to be able to build up an economic mode to take the hit from the family that does that i'm sorry it's just this is an example where critical thinking is not working properly and conspiratorial thinking has overtaken an entire group of people and you take drugs the supplements you take how do the supplements are safe i'm researching supplements right now for mushrooms to create lion's mane supplements there's very little regulation there i don't have to do broad scale inspections and these other things to put something in your body and you go to the health food store you see thousands of supplements all across some from small companies where there can be all kinds of contamination in them you take all these prescription drugs the antibiotics you take those are devastating to your microbiome far more harmful in many cases than anything a vaccine is going to do for you it's all but there's ethylene glycol or this thing in the vaccine there's fat and millions of consumer products all around that people touch interact with every single day yeah but there's allergic reactions people have yeah the two allergic reactions that were in the uk those allergic reactions were from people who have to carry epipens because their allergies are so bad that things trigger them all the time and they have to go ahead and inject themselves their throat will close up they die plenty of people running around where that's the case stands the reason they're going to have a hard time with that and what we say if you have that lifestyle don't take it proportionality it matters and if you can't adopt it you can't live in a complex world if you can't live in a complex world you must regress to a simple one or you must outsource to institutions to take care of you what are you gonna do yes i take lion's mane every day it's a great drug what are your thoughts on airdrops and burning tokens everybody knows how i feel about burning ada and i don't know why people keep asking there is no giant pool of unallocated data floating out there every ada in circulation belongs to somebody so if you're asking about burning aveda you have to immediately follow that up with whose ada do you want to burn now i had some people reach out to me over telegram saying that i should burn my own ada okay i guess i don't deserve to be paid for the work i do i'm a physician and read literally thousands of vaccine papers most are not properly controlled side effects are not looked into for longer than a few weeks cdc gets paid millions of options okay eric well as a physician you tell me what side effects have you seen and they've actually been correlated and well understood also as a physician you tell me all the drugs you prescribe on a day-to-day basis how many of those have problematic side effects we live in a country where 80 million people have insulin resistance and when they go and get type 2 diabetes we put them on insulin to treat it think about that in the catastrophic health consequences and multi-systemic problems from alzheimer's to heart disease to atherosclerosis that's caused by it and the problem is vaccination the fda has recused itself as has many institutions in public health from much broader far more problematic issues than mass vaccination and i don't see the mechanisms that are going to cause serious problems oh my god swine flu in 1975. we had getting with a guinea bray oh some some issues here for a few people one out of a hundred thousand or something like that and then that somehow was extrapolated to say all these things as a doctor you probably get a flu shot every year most hospitals require their staff to do that i'm sorry this is not the problem in medicine you are fully and keenly aware of that there are much larger problems from the way that drugs are developed and distributed i'm sick and for example as you should be that rem deserver is 5 000 bucks a dose and it was an orphan drug it was developed for ebola and then they somehow magically repurpose it to be a not really efficacious treatment of corona and apparently that's great but then all of the other treatments we have like ivermectin and vitamin d and so forth are completely ignored or trivialized or attacked when they're over the counter and are made at cost so there's much bigger problems in medicine you should be definitely aware of that i don't think vaccine safety or efficacy is the issue here the worst case scenario you're giving people a dud but for the vast majority of symptoms and side effects they show up in the first 60 days and it's very clear when these things happen the rotavirus vaccine the the symptoms and side effects showed up in the first 90 days the mechanism is autoimmune stimulation and months later autoimmune diseases pop up for clinical relevance and no one can make the connection because they're not doing long-term controlled studies okay yeah well they do follow people in a normal vaccine trial for at least two years to five years depending on the vaccine the ebola vaccine for example i think they followed for three years there and the incidence of autoimmune conditions was was not statistically significant yes for example with pfizer alone there are four cases of bell's palsy that occurred and in the astrazeneca vaccine there were some issues of there were some neurological issues that came up i can't remember the exact issues they had there but it's difficult to create a causal relationship here and say this creating autoimmune conditions i would much rather argue that a large chunk of the autoimmune conditions we have are environmental or diet related and there's a litany of issues that are coming there why because we've seen a much higher incidence of autoimmune conditions over the last 50 years as we've moved from a balanced normal human diet to a high carb low fat high sugar diets and everybody's getting insulin resistance and it's creating tons of autoimmune issues i don't think mass vaccination has caused that problem at all now it's certainly possible that it could be the case but then it behooves to look at the statistical significance of it and if it was the case then we should definitely be able to notice that in the data somewhere yeah exactly bell's policy was outside normal percentage there's only four cases and it was statistically insignificant what are your thoughts on gavin wood during the time you work with one another he's a brilliant guy and he's very good at writing code and he's very good leading engineers and people people like working with him or they hate working with him he's very polarizing guy and i'm very polarizing as well so some days we get along some days we don't get along polka dot is based on principles from orbor's prowse with some changes that they made and so they obviously read our work and understand our work and i've worked on a polka dot related project we use parity substrate for polymesh so i think they're one of the good guys in terms of blockchain companies they contribute to the space and they do good work there and there's been many missteps as i have made and markets litigate those missteps did polka dot really copy the cardano platform yes and no i mean there's inspiration from some of the things that we've done but there's a lot of originality there as well again this is an example of where when you can't deal with complexity and you have simplicity you always try to regress and say bob copied alice it's they clearly read the workforce prowess paper that's that's self-evident they freely admit that and they clearly made original contributions on the economic and other components of the that protocol so there's inspiration there there's inspiration in cardona from al grand there's inspiration in cardano from 100 other sources some that predate cryptocurrencies so i wouldn't say they copied us i think that there was inspiration there and we read the parachain design and there's actually some merit to para chains there's a lot of things that we'd like to play with and i think that's a feature not a bug when you say charles is polarizing you have to be really passionate in polarizing to be a change maker and a leader of a movement because your movement until it becomes successful and self-evident is going to always be viewed as the outsider and the underdog and you're going to be attacked and attacked and attacked and they say how dare you not follow orthodoxy so the kind of leader that you need to get the movement to mainstream is fundamentally different than the kind of leader that you need to manage your mainstream success so the things that made bill gates a phenomenal ceo and building up microsoft to become a dominant force were actually problematic when the name of the game from microsoft was being custodial and it turns out sasha nadella is a massively better ceo at that than bill was during the 2000s when he was kind of the holstered emperor with steve ballmer so every era of a project needs a different type of personality and in the early days you really need somebody who's willing to endure a lot of suffering and pain and get his ass kicked and say crazy stuff and push and push and push but then that person duel paradoxically also has to understand their time is finite and prepare for custodians to come and help manage the successes as they come and hand those successes to them and if you do that well you have a beautiful well-balanced ecosystem yeah this one right here bill gates with the vomit there's bill gates that i knew and there's the bill gates of today i don't know what happened to bill the bill gates i knew was a vicious relentless capitalist who hated the lose and was extremely good at dominating a market and just winning and it could be internet explorer it could be office it could be windows proliferation and he just was really good at all of that somewhere along the way bill gates became a humanitarian and the game completely changed for him and he started wearing the sweater every day even if it's 90 degrees outside and doing his his thing and bill melinda gates foundation's so vast it's almost a government agency at this point because it has so much money you wait tens of millions of dollars every day to go on melinda gates foundation he's you don't normally do that in a charity that's a government agency that does this type of thing and he is really enjoying his retirement and he has a diverse set of interests now you can always debate are the use of funds adequate are they being used in a wise way is he focusing on the right problems and so forth but what he's a guy made all the money so it's his prerogative on how he spends it where he spends it what he does with it so the issue he has is that he doesn't seem to care at all about certain dimensions of public relations there's a perception and it's not a small perception of people believing that bill is part of a large new world order conspiracy to massively depopulate the human race and murder hundreds of millions of people now he can play the victim and say he's completely blameless in this but people are innately suspicious of extremely powerful extremely wealthy unaccountable people whose motives are not completely clear who operate in a not super transparent way and he's not accountable to anybody a government agency would be and as a consequence he can do things that normal people can't and i see those things in africa for example the christian agricultural transformation agency a private citizen usually can't approach a government and say yeah i'm just going to create something to solve your starvation problem i'll pay for it and of course the prime minister here's the check for it get it done tomorrow here's the guy to lead it and when you have that kind of superpower if people don't understand the motives of the person with that superpower they're inclined to believe nefarious actions and activity if he was really cognizant and aware of how problematic that is then what bill should do is ditch the sweater and go on the rogan effect joe rogan and go and actually engage people and talk to real human beings not the davos crowd at the world economic forum and south by southwest and major elite parties and hanging out with presidents but everyday people contrast bill gates with elon musk elin is just as rich at this point and he is literally building a company to put neurological implants into your brain when we talk about build depopulating people with like nanobots and vaccines it's it's out there like elon is literally drilling holes into people's skulls and putting [ __ ] into your brain that can influence your brain and people are totally chill with elon musk why because they get elon musk they feel a relationship with elon musk they kind of understand where this guy is coming from they see him in a way that they don't see bill for example bill had tremendous problems with the us government in the 1990s with the anti-trust issues as mark zuckerberg is now going through kind of a modern day bill gates and not once did bill go to the media and lament and really spill everything out and say god these guys suck and he didn't show humanity he did what all fortune 500 ceos do elon musk has problems with his fremont plant making teslas and he thinks this whole coronavirus lockdown thing is just horseshit so what does he do he goes to twitter and complains about it and then says if you guys don't get your act together i'm moving to texas and he follows through on it when you do those things it humanizes you and builds a relationship and people understand you at least enough to kind of get a sense of your motives and so when you do things like build missiles and rockets and you do things like make cars and solar power and batteries and these types of things it in a way makes that understandable and people are okay with it spacex if elon musk acted like bill gates would probably be one of the most conspiratorial companies a huge chunk of their revenue comes from secret government launches and projects with the air force and other things elon probably does hold a top secret clearance and is has access to a lot of very proprietary information that's a very very secret squirrel stuff there would be alien conspiracies to the max with spacex if elon didn't have that relationship i don't understand why bill gates people and bill gates himself doesn't get this and if he was just to go on joe rogan's show just to engage with these people just to actually humanize himself and get rid of the sweater and the polished demeanor and so forth a lot more people would trust him and if a lot more people trust him i think he could be so much more [Music] effective and this is actually a valid point here it says bill gates is a new world order thug if you are cynical you'd say the reason why he can't do that is that he's not genuine he's not a real person and that's the problem if you live in the shadows or you decide not to have transparency you own that label as george soros does and the koch brothers do and other people who work via proxy do you believe in aliens one thing i've noticed i won't tell you who in my company but there's a very high-ranking person in my company who is firmly convinced that aliens are a thing and it sends me stuff all the time on the latest and greatest and for a long time i didn't really care about it but i have noticed that there is a bit of priming that's happening in the global consciousness about the existence of aliens you had that 87 year old israeli guy who used to run their space program say hey there's actually this galactic federation and then you have all these ufo videos and then you have the air force actually talking about you have the creation of space force and these things so as a thought experiment let's say that you're a world leader and aliens do exist and you're trying to figure out how do i tell the world without creating chaos what would you do the most logical thing to do would be slowly but surely priming the world to actually be okay with the existence of aliens and leaking more and more and more and seeing reactions like these ufo videos that could have been still stayed as classified but were declassified and letting more and more people talk about it from the edges and then gradually bringing into the mainstream so i'm not saying they exist i'm just saying that what's happening right now would be clearly evident with a with an effort to get people ready for such a big event hey charles do you think robotics and automation may replace human labor and have unwanted results yeah andrew yang certainly thinks though that's why all the ubi people are pushing really heavily for ubi because they say automation is going to kill us there is definitely three classes of automation i think within the next 20 years are going to have a profound impact on employment autonomous vehicles is one category eventually helper robots are going to evolve to a point where they're actually capable of walking and interacting so for cleaning jobs service industry jobs and these types of things there's going to be a huge impact there and three augmentation of skilled labor for the trades so the vast majority of things you do in the trades from carpentry work to plumbing work to electrical work if you're at a point where you can make fries or operate cash register as a robot you probably can do that skilled labor very well in fact many cases much better than a human being can you never get tired you make precise measurements you have very sophisticated optics and these types of things you don't have the independent thought so you have to be supervised and managed by somebody but that's definitely going to be doable 20 years that's here now if you sum up the jobs in those sectors and say well automation kill that you could be losing 50 million jobs in the united states from those three categories so i do think there is a big big issue with that in the problem with wealth distribution when you have automation a small group of capitalists will be able to buy that labor to replace human labor at a huge competitive advantage and that wealth will not trickle down because at least when you're hiring people there's trickle down if you have just robots there's no trickle down there's a hyper capitalization so usually you see ubi and wealth tax bundled together for these types of things i don't believe in wealth tax i think it's theft i think ubi makes sense when you have sovereign wealth funds it does not make sense in a deficit culture if you have a massive national debt what the [ __ ] are you doing printing money to give money to people makes no sense because the inflation is actually going to exceed whatever poultry handouts you're giving to society as a whole but if you have a 1.

5 trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund like norway does distribute the dividends to your people good fiscal management won't debase your currency and it'll be do a lot of good you'll get a lot of velocity of that money especially for the poor people and really help your your economy so it's a it's a mixed bag [Music] have you ever heard of jacques fresco the founder of the venus project resource-based economy where blockchains play a very role he actually came to my alma mater years ago c boulder he's dead now but jacques had a lot of really cool ideas and i think he was well ahead of his time and there's actually things the open ecology movement and other things that are are kind of corollaries to what he was talking about and it's a really exciting thing to see this girl what's your opinion about deep mind solving the protein folding problem just another example of of when you apply really sophisticated very precise tools to a very well-defined problem you'll end up getting unorthodox solutions the nose cone for example on the shinkansen in japan was designed by genetic algorithms so there's all kinds of things that you can do when you have these tools to solve real life human problems this is going to massively reduce cost of biological research and it's real beneficial especially in regenerative medicine so very excited about it so net win for us all what can blockchain do for filmmaking really interesting question there are a lot of problems in filmmaking if you want to get a a roller coaster into some things that happen on the financing side look into the funding of the wolf of wall street from martin scorsese when you aggravate funds for these projects there's royalty problems there's organized crime that's involved there's all kinds of crazy things that happen so one side of it the crowdfunding and the distribution of dividends and the understanding of financial agreements between people who are making a project a film that is something blockchain tech can be considerably useful for especially long-term royalties that come there there's just so many people been screwed throughout that the brokering of asset pipelines the purchasing of music and audio effects and visual effects and these types of things establishing origin of intellectual property and royalty screams for that that's another thing i think blockchain can make a lot of sense with as well so basically just the management of payment flows and royalties in ip that's where filmmaking probably get a big benefit from blockchain technology when powell i think that's real vision i was on before and at some point we'll ping him and play around with him did epstein kill himself absolutely not absolutely not i've been asked this question a few times and my opinion is that epstein worked for an intelligence agency he worked for them since the 1980s and he had a very particular job which was compromised so he had a good gig they put him up and gave him lots of money to live an exorbitant lifestyle and pretend to be a rich hedge fund guy and then his job was to get rich powerful people to go sleep with underage girls record it and then use the compromise to influence policy there's just no reality where rando can just have relationships with prince andrew and bill clinton and donald trump and bill gates and hundreds of other people in academia and policy and convince a lot of them to go and get compromised and all of his rooms were wired up for sound when it became clear that he was using young girls for this he suffered no consequences for a long period of time and he acted as if he was a made man and then at the very end of his life circumstances changed and like all assets of intelligence agencies or inconvenience he was cut loose and he knew he was going to die and then suddenly the day of his death weird stuff happened and somehow a guy who should not have been killed just kills himself magically he didn't kill himself at all it's that's an example of a very real conspiracy the other thing is the lack of media coverage tells you where power lies if you're an investigative journalist think of the prizes you can win in the accolades you can get calling truth to power and showing that some of the richest most powerful people in the world were pedophiles or abused young innocent women yet no one has any appetite to go and be an investigative journalist and dig into the story despite the enormous draw it would have why because the people who own the mass media companies were also complicit with what epstein did and they buried that and that in itself is a story so he is the symptom not the root cause and he worked in a larger structure and we don't know what that structure looks but this is not a new technique it the playboy mansion famous people would have sex in the grotto and they were secretly recorded and those secret recordings worked their hands into the cia and i think it was the 60s and that's why playboy got away with a lot of stuff so this stuff this stuff does happen now it's not illuminati stuff to this question right here you see that illuminati crap is real this is what's called trade craft it's what spy agencies do so when you are thinking about recruiting people to workforce by agency you have your agents who are loyal people and they work for that country and they're super vetted and with the agent's job for human capital human intelligence is to go and recruit local assets and you have four dimensions you can recruit them it's called mice so you recruit with money so you bribe people you can recruit them with ideology like your communist state and they believe in capitalism and they hate communism so they want to come in you can attack them with ego that's the ian mice and that's where some things happen like maybe they get turned down for a promotion or something like there's cases in the soviet union where prominent scientists were trivialized and passed up and they still knew a lot of government secrets and so they got compromised that way or you can develop blackmail on them so for example all the time israel in the united states they monitor iran very very closely to try to figure out who's gay and who's not gay and they have a whole beautiful network of the homosexuals in that country why because it's a crime in that state and if a particular government official is having a secret gay relationship if that was to be publicly revealed it would destroy his career probably get him executed so that's an example of compromise and there's ways to either passively find it where it falls in your lap and you use that information or actively create compromise for example there was a chinese spy recently who was sleeping with a u.s congressman and absorbing information out of him i forget that the name think it was selwell or something like that one of these congressmen floating around that's been compromised well epstein is an example of a classic intelligence operation you have a lot of wealthy prominent people those prominent people are globalists and they do business with everybody if you compromise them and you have leverage against them then they're probably going to work with you and give you information on a regular basis or if they're in a position of policy making change policy to benefit the will of your country russia does this china does this a lot of people on the left for example believe that there's compromise on donald trump in russia that while he was there for the miss universe pageants these other things that there are sex tapes or other such things whether they exist or not it's historically been done by the fsb in in russia and chinese do the same thing we call them natashas yeah there we go eric swalwell that was the congressman who got compromised by the chinese spy are you sure you want to be saying this stuff well the cat's out of the bag we live in a mass media market and i just list chris baker on the roman experience the head of diligence he who's the former cia guy these are open secrets they're all known and it's called trait craft and people understand when them think of the world economic forum and their agenda everyone will own nothing do you believe we're in for hunger games society without the games i i think these globalists that go to the world economic forum the vast majority of them are people that just love hearing themselves talk they've never worked a real day in their life a lot of these people inherited their money their trust fund babies or their prominent powerful politicians that have no moral core and they just look for the flavor of the week they were big big gung-ho people with communism back in the day and they're big gung-ho people with socialism always been and they keep telling us how great it all is and the great reset is the latest incarnation of what these people talk about but at the end of the day you gotta implement the policy and to implement it's real hard because many start taking money or jobs or power away from people things fall apart but when you're rich and trust fundy and you have no accountability and you can fly anywhere on a private jet i mean i remember going to davos this year you couldn't fly in to davos because the airport was so filled with private jets and everybody there was talking about how bad climate change is when they flew in a private jet to go to davos and they stand at 10 000 square foot mansion it's like there's the hypocrisy there is extraordinary to me absolutely extraordinary charles coinbase referred to you as a pothead you guys have the link for that i was not i was not aware of that charles why did cardano opera ethiopia before nigeria which is africa's most populous country and largest economy we opted for ethiopia because that's where the african union is based and there's a lot of programs that we felt were uniquely well suited for what we were doing with cardano especially in agricultural technology there's a nice ict base in nigeria and frankly you do ethiopia it's very easy to expand into kenya into nigeria and those four countries alone constitute 400 million people that's a big chunk of the continent about 40 of the population my director of african operations is half ethiopian and half english and so it was it was kind of an easy fit we understood what we were getting into we saw the dynamics of the country the other thing is ethiopia is the only country in the world currently led by a cryptographer the prime minister actually was a infosec expert who broke codes for the intelligence agencies in ethiopia during the air train war so there's very few people around at the head of state level that you can have a computer science conversation with about your papers and actually gets what you're talking about you see a blocks cipher or stream cipher or these types of things so it was a good combination of of just luck and coincidence combined with the right environment population and also ethiopia's very pan-african view so once you have a solid base of operations it's incredibly easy to go to kenya nigeria and ghana and rwanda and uganda and so forth and it's nice 107 million people that's not insignificant is john o'connor still in ethiopia yes he is despite the civil war that's how committed our people are they don't really care what's going on diseases wars internet being shut off safety at risk we tell them go home they say no way in hell they stay there i had to pay some special forces people to build an extraction plan for my personnel there so if something gets really bad we have people lined up to go and get them out but i i mean that's commitment and they're there because they want to be there and they're they're going to see it completely through to the end would you be able to be friends with high influence people such as the clintons knowing they're involved in this i will never be friends with the clintons they're scumbags absolute scumbags and there's a lot of people in the upper echelons of society i have no desire to be friends with or know or interact with i will never be in their clubs they'll never invite me to their clubs and i would reject if they did i'll never join the bilderberg group i'll never join any of these things because what that's the world it used to be what we're trying to do is build a better world today where you're in charge not a small group of elite people who presume they have the right to run society so no way know how i'll i won't pick up or return the phone calls and call a spade a spade bad people are bad people i don't care if they have wealth and money don't do business with them thoughts on the end of the cardano effect that one broke my heart i funded 76 episodes i mentioned this in the earlier part the episode and the foundation did the rest and they applied for funding the community decided not to give it to them and i think that's a loss for us all i don't think they were asking for too much i just think that they needed to do a few more rounds to explain what they were providing guys we live in an era where joe rogan makes 100 million dollars with his podcast and ben shapiro makes tens of millions of dollars with his podcast podcasters can make an enormous sum of money look at pewdiepie it's more of a question of well if you're going to ask for that much you need to present a strategy that produces proportional value so how do you get 100 000 regular listeners for example how do you get real kpis for cardano that's the kind of conversation we need to have it's okay to ask for a large sum of money it costs a large sum of money to build tesla it costs a large sum of money to do rna treatments to cure cancer and these types of things but your ass has to be proportional with value provided or potential value provided and then it's up to the funder to decide if that risk assessment makes sense in hindsight probably would have been better to ask for funding a little later when the funds were a little larger so by proportion it was lower a million or two million dollars for the fund and i'm sure the foundation would have been happy to cover their costs long term if not i would have been happy to cover their costs but i'm not happy about it i i think the show added a lot of value to our ecosystem i know rick and felipe personally i've met them and spent a lot of time with them i think they're both great people and they're quite ethical and it's a critical piece of infrastructure for the community management component of our ecosystem and they're going to be very difficult to replace [Music] you're comparing a very niche podcast to joe rogan well no joe rogan was very niche at one point he was fear factor guy i mean if you while watching fear factor a show that got cancelled because he made women drink donkey semen and somebody told you 10 years from now this man is going to have the most culturally relevant podcast in the world with 30 million viewers listeners every week people think you're insane big things don't start big almost always they have little beginnings and if you're going to ask for a lot of funding or more funding than people think you need to be bold and ask and say this is what you're getting so your point about being a niche and small podcast they'd have to go and say this is how we get it to be not so nishi not so small and how it's going to grow like ben shapiro for example he's starting to broaden out from being just a conservative podcaster to basically being a media empire he's making his own movies r-rated movies he hired candace owens he's expanding his investigative journalist team and he's an anti-new york times in that respect and he has the freedom to do this because his subscription base has grown to a point where tens of millions of dollars of revenue come in every year so he's one of the fastest growing media platforms around and he's in many ways living up to what glenn beck tried to do with the blaze will the ben start that way no ben was just a guy he was working with breitbart and these other people but he had the wherewithal to understand how growth works and that's the point why are you wearing clint eastwood clothes because sometimes i'm good and sometimes i'm bad and sometimes i'm ugly [Music] ben shapiro is making r-rated movies i know that's crazy it's crazy have you seen on netflix the social dilemma i have not seen it yet everybody keeps telling me to watch it honestly just not had the time free masonry what's your opinion so on the great courses there's a course on conspiracies and secret societies it's 24 episodes long i would highly highly encourage you to to watch all that and the freemasons are mentioned most of the founders of my country and signers of the declaration of independence and constitution or freemasons or related to freemasons there's a long legacy there i am not a freemason can't take the oath [Music] what is your opinion on scientology does it hold any truth it's a dangerous cult yeah it's started by a megalomanical person with narcissistic personality disorder and they sue anybody who attacks or criticizes them and they engage in all the standard behavior of splitting up families and causing people to have fruity crazy beliefs and getting financial control over people and generating compromise on people so if they leave their reputation can be destroyed i there are religions with wacky founders that kind of turn into reasonable institutions mormonism is an example of that setting the golden tablets and the craziness aside of the founder the mormon church has evolved to a point where it's become a productive mainstay of frontier society in utah and other places and mormons are great members of society there's no problem with them and mormon families can live happy lives and the doctrine of mormonism has gotten to a point through a series of evolutions to a point where it's not really problematic or harmful to people scientology will always be harmful because it's a death cult around a singular founder and it was all about ingratiating the founder and enriching the founder and that dynamic is still present it has nothing to do with building people up it has everything to do with tearing people down and making them part of a broader whole organism and i have very little respect or tolerance for organizations that do that so i don't think it holds any truth at all and i think it's at best useless and worst harmful and the fact that they sue people who criticize them it tells you everything you need to know crazy religions do that not real ones thoughts on psilocybin mushrooms and spirituality oh well i think that psilocybin has been used for thousands of years by shamans and other religious figures and rituals michael pollan covers this actually in his book how to change your mind which is probably the single best interaction of psychedelics in modern literature and it really gives you a sense of who all the key actors were and where that entire industry came from from the creation of lsd to the experiments at harvard in 1960s and the hippie movement to the dark ages to the resurrection of psychedelics at johns hopkins say we will about spear out spirituality component of it tremendously beneficial for the treatment of depression tremendously beneficial and depression and post stress disorder and other things many cases they're showing that people actually can be taken off of antidepressants altogether after receiving just a few therapies with the guided therapies that they're doing with the johns hopkins experiments it's one of the key reasons why excuse me one of the key reasons why organ decriminalized psychedelics just because there's so much evidence that's coming and i think we're heading towards global decriminalization in the next 10 or 15 years followed by a renaissance of research charles hoskinson who's your favorite philosopher by far bertrand russell i also really like albert camus i think combining both of them together is difficult an unstable element but it has wonderful results if you can pull it off charles had he played baldur's gate three i took a look at it as a game developer i i have the ability to look at these things larian studios makes it the guys who do the divinity series and they they do just phenomenal job with all the things they do it's an early release it's still a little rough and there's a lot of work the game needs and unfortunately game system they have in the play system they have doesn't fit so well with fist edition dungeons and dragons and i think it's quite unfortunate they weren't allowed just to use the divinity game mechanics because they're much much better for how they approach making games but all things considered it's if they keep working on it i think it's going to be a very solid asset i think it's unfortunate that it exists within the boulder's gate milliere the reality is that that's a closed story and if you're going to approach it they should redo the games remaster the games as a trilogy one of the biggest mistakes bioware and these other guys made with baller's gate was not having throne of ball be a stand-alone new game as opposed to an expansion pack of baldur's gate 2. that is really amenable to a trilogy and they just didn't do that so i think it should have been remade as an entire group with a single studio peter jackson style and it's real sad that they didn't do that charles you really have to learn to open up more it's hard to see where you stand on an issue that's a good thing i try to stick with just to the facts and things that i've analyzed to a point where i feel comfortable stating it i don't really go and say oh well it's what i believe raw and you must believe this too i just try to say okay well here's where it's at all things in life are nuanced and complicated and there's more to the story than any one person's opinion and the reality is that wisdom and truth take time to arrive to and that's the miracle of age age takes from you youth you get weaker start getting more pains i have terrible gout and got it creates problems at times i didn't have that when i was 20. on the other hand i have a lot more wisdom than when i was 20. so you lose something but you gain something and i think more people need to acknowledge that you ever do a game with the godot engine i've actually received a lot of people's recommendations to do something with godot it's it's a cool game engine i actually had a chance to take a look at it open source engine a lot of adherence and it's really nice for indian small games babylon js is also a pretty good game engine as well and i the physics engine that they have there and also it makes sense to build a game in javascript as an open source project i don't think godot is a viable competitor though to unity or unreal i mean just how you handle asset pipelines and how you handle the curation and project management of a large scale triple s title within those ecosystems is much more evolved and refined than what you see with godot and also with performance and cross-platform capabilities there's just nothing to match those two in cryengine as well say the easiest of all three of those is unity but godot is definitely useful and i if i was an independent open source game developer making my own games like basically games or something with escalon series i'd probably use godot or something like that it's a good engine charles made video games before i still do i own a video game company i just bought legends of valor and we're doing a remake watch the earlier parts of the episode yeah yeah there you go tony how to ask these questions don't you it is unfortunate we live in a time where people feel fear in discussing certain topics that ought to be discussed are those hell raiser cubes in the desk behind you yes they're called lament configurations and they are have you seen lord of the rings in 4k yet not yet i am absolutely planning on getting them and absolutely planning on watching them it's going to be a lot of fun to watch lord of the rings and 4k because they redid the hobbit as well and they somehow managed to reconcile the remake and remastery with the 48 frames per second shot that they did jackson is a master and if given enough time and money he can do anything you should have seen they shall not grow old his remastery of the world war one footage for example what he can do well you cooperate with a hollow chain team try to read the green paper and code i i tried to engage with them the community was not very friendly or amicable and i just gave up pro tip if you want somebody to engage with you especially a larger cryptocurrency be helpful and open so i'm sure there's interesting things there but there's just not for me because i don't have the time and there's 3 000 projects to look at and i've received so much great support from ergo and the waves community and the zen protocol community and dozens of others i'd rather spend my time with novel ideas there than ones that aren't super welcoming do you think the new dune movie will be any good yes i think danny velanu is a modern-day stanley kubrick and i think dune is going to be phenomenal it's going to be a beautiful movie will you integrate legends of valor with cardano so how likely we'll do non-fungible assets i might actually do an in-game currency for games in the game because there was gambling inside the game there's dozens of things we could do and i will brainstorm with you guys the community when the time comes for that and we will definitely pull something in nice poncho well thank you still in communication with sergey nazarov yeah we talked to him do you like boxing i absolutely do what about vr charles well there's another example of where unity has so much of a lead on people when you look at godot or babylon versus unity your support for emerging platforms like oculus and the htc vive and these these types of things is much much much better than it is in these open source engines and it's just sad but that's the way the economics works if you want to do cross-platform deployment on playstation xbox pc mac linux and vr and in the browser you're going to have to use technology like that what is waddler up to these days writing papers and working on pluto's actually we're at a very pivotal moment and plutus is just about to go mainstream so he's going to be a busy guy he's he's doing good work we're also getting him a few post docs and graduate students related to the work he's doing got to create a legacy and make sure there's some academics trained to carry that on thoughts on the rise of the china u.

s cons conflict looks we're headed for a thucydides trap how is caitlyn long i i think she just did some sort of marksman thing she hit something a thousand yards away or something like that she's a badass that woman's one of the most amazing i've ever met and i really love the work that she does have you ever seen a silicon valley from hbo telling me my lamborghini needs doors that open like this instead of this any doors that open like that nope never seen it is it possible to create an ai that can distinguish truth and lies we call that a veracity metric or a veracity agent and yes it's done all the time the intelligence community dang well you're still live i went to lulz to get a hot water heater came back installed and was going to watch the recording well what type of hot water heater did you get did you get a gas heater did you get an electric water heater is it tankless a tank you got to give me more information man have you heard about tesnix open source hydrogen engines i have not and i will look it up writing it down right now i always find out the most interesting things from my community you have a tankless propane there you go pearl pairing and proparine accessories does vitamin d help your gout my problem is that i was unmedicated i'm supposed to take aloe pyranol and i finally threw in the towel and the gal got my ankle and said [ __ ] all right i'll take it but right when you're getting on allopurinol it usually causes another flare up and i'm dealing with that right now it's not pronounced htc vive it is vive with the sound of i i prefer it my way gout issue quit eating red meat no i will never stop eating red meat and that's not the primary source of purines you bastard i eat too much shellfish that's what's doing me in that's where the purines are coming from i will die on the hill of red meat what do you think about joe biden does he understand crypto i don't think he understands much anything he's very old man i think the people around him understand a lot more janet yellen is going to be the treasury secretary that's an interesting one charles why do other pos chains like polkadot need slashing well cardano doesn't need that for staking because we carefully design the economic model and it's completely unnecessary to implement that and you're just hurting your community by doing so we don't need punitive measures to make the system work well and the fact that we're working without them is a demonstration of that yeah how the hell did they end up with person of the year because they did the thing that the media cared more about than anything else they defeated trump that alone was all they needed to do didn't have to campaign he did what mckinley did when he was running against william jenning brian back in 1900 or whatever he just basically was the not trump option and because he won your man of the year he could murder children in the street at this point he'd be a better man because they hate him so much i hate trump so much charles thoughts on tulsi gabbard if you're using a bill to ban trans women from competing in female sports this is an example of a conversation that needs to be had and our society is living in a really bizarre world where certain topics you just are not allowed to have a conversation and work through to pretend it's settled and there's no controversy is an insane statement and unfortunately it's becoming the standard as opposed to the exception of the rule and douglas murray actually wrote a lovely book called madness of the crowd specifically on this topic among other topics in the the new social justice stuff and racial justice and economic justice and these other things that exist and it's just bizarre there's so many inconsistencies floating about and things change so quickly you can be in the middle of a supreme court confirmation hearing and then you hear sexual preferences now not pc and webster's dictionary has to suddenly change overnight the dictionary just because oh god i guess we were out of date everything's a little crazy right now and bills like that they are uncomfortable but what they do is they force the conversation and we should not be afraid to have that conversation and anybody who tells you otherwise they're not people you should listen to i mentioned this thomas have you heard about the breakthrough view and human longevity research in regards to high oxygen environments lengthening telomeres upwards so 20 after six sessions it was 20 to 34 depending upon the particular person and they actually measured the telomere length pre-during and post by taking people's blood looks really promising the science was done very well and i think it was well constructed study out of israel i'm going to buy a hyperbaric chamber try it out myself and i actually go ahead and take a look at my biological age and see if there are improvements as compo as a consequence of it so well mike tyson fight again yes he is negotiating with evander hollyfield and we're going to have a tyson holly field exhibition tyson is going to crush him huh i think he's got a perfect thing going on here or he says tyson should retire gratefully tyson has been in and out 14 years and what he's done is he's found a way to basically have reasonable entertaining fights that are low stakes and they actually accomplish what boxing has become boxing is not a sport yes it's an olympic sport and people do it millions of people for exercise and there's competitiveness and so forth boxing at the highest levels is entertainment it's cafe yeah it's not quite world wrestling where it's staged but basically you create a narrative people take sides in that narrative and they really get excited about it there's cultural pride like when pacquiao was fighting marquez and they were like oh yeah yeah that's our guy they shut down all the philippines for it and people just fight for that person so the athleticism the actual technicalities of it these none of that really matters too much it's all about the story it's all about the narrative it's all about the entertainment value for it so tyson has moved from i'm a contender in the sport of boxing to i'm an entertainer in the sport of boxing and 1.