Surprise AMA 02/22/2021

hello crypto fellow travelers this is charles hoskinson broadcasting live from warm sunny colorado always warm always sunny sometimes colorado so let's get the camera all set up ready to go we're getting a little bit of a flashing there it'll resolve itself a little bit linux and webcams sometimes it has a little trouble but hopefully the screen will fix itself a little bit it is february 22nd 2021 and it's been a long year already a lot of stuff going on a lot of things released a lot of things to do tons of interviews the surprise of the day is i got an email total cold call from lex friedman he says hi i'm lex friedman i read a podcast and i'd like to interview you and i've interviewed some interesting people like elon musk and he describes him as engineer i was you don't say there lexi you don't say oh boy that color is pretty crazy let's see well there's nothing we can do hang on let's see logitech brio full high def audio no green screen camera settings well we're just gonna have to deal with some flashing red light poor camera maybe that'll reset it there we go okay so anyway i had a good day a lot of work done we're getting close closing out the month two days before we have the hfc event we're waiting on those birds to land your guess is as good as mine looks the end of the month or early next month so those are going to be some fun announcements hope you guys like them but all things considered smooth salon project is moving along it's late at night here at 8 37 worked on the stake pool a little bit and as i am the king of the rats i'll call it something along those lines and you guys should see it shortly in daedalus and i'll advertise it just the rest of y'all stick pool operators and then we can complain about parameters i'll i'll go complain to myself anyway it's been a long day it's been a long week and it's only monday i think or is it tuesday i can't even remember all right let's get to your questions huh okay opinion on dave oh there we go opinion on david chom now david is a very famous cryptographer very active during the 1980s 1990s he was a big guy very paranoid very brilliant and he did some really cool work he created a company called digicash and it was a reflection of some of research he has a new project i think it's called elixir or something like that and i don't understand the science that i don't quite understand the design of what he's doing but all things considered he's david chop his brilliant guy and we certainly have a lot of fun talking to him from time to time last time i saw him in person was at consensus in 2019 the conference where apparently according to coin telegraph i allegedly yelled at journalist in a crowded hallway not really sure what happened there but that's what they say how come elin changed his picture to a fork because he's hungry for pie opinion on psychedelics potentially in feeling innovation yeah it's called silicon valley they're micro dosing lsd all the original guys who started it were high on balls you go out to the forest you'd pick some silica mushrooms they've been using psychedelics for quite some time in innovation management is eunice mob going to ada well we might copy the protocol but i don't think they have any plans to migrate which do you prefer boulder and denver i went to college in both towns and they're very very different will there be a token burn no but what i want you to do is be very specific about this i want you to turn off your computer i want you to take it and throw it in the trash can if you have a car get in the car and i want you to drive to the mountains and i want you to sit on a rock look at the sunset and contemplate your existence and ask yourself why you're so consumed with idiocy and avarice and after you're done with that i want you to come back and only after you've reached a new level of clarity and insight and then beg for forgiveness from the entire cardano community for suggesting to destroy their money okay what do we got here goat why does everybody call me that what do you guys you guys got things for goats it's weird okay what do we got here one of the flashing lights the background yeah that was the issue i was trying to fix in the beginning i'm not sure why the webcam is doing that there's some sort of lighting issue maybe if we go dark let's try dark mode how about that just a second guys gotta go dark mode that did not fix it makes me a sad panda hell we'll go with it go without the head set don't really need it no one's calling in or are they who knows all right what do you guys got for me big homie wearing a kimono everybody thinks it's a kimono is a yukata sir you guys will one day know okay come on give me some good questions we never do it stop asking never trust the scan you are the king no you sir are because you're listening gene simmons cardano yeah that one took me by complete surprise i have no idea why i don't know what's going on with old gene simmons it's pretty crazy he just bought some ada he said it's a great investment we never talked to him before i don't personally know him and i was just got home when i saw it i saw my phone i said okay i guess we're doing this now anyway i my guys are reaching out to his guys and hopefully we can at least maybe bring him on the podcast or something and have a conversation with him i can interview him i did sam and the rest of the gang and i pray that these red lights won't be going on we'll figure it out all right what do we got here any new haskell courses coming up actually yes we have one coming up in ghana and i will cover that in a little bit remind me to get back to it hi charles from mexico well it's nice to meet you in la te las manos okay will cardano solve the gas fees issues ethereum has yes it will interview justin roiland please only if he does the morty voice will italia have an open source license everything we do is open source we do not work on non-open source projects we're always patent free usually apache 2 sometimes mit i don't even like gpl chicken wings drums or flats flats why was your tedx six years ago in bermuda was great talk truly inspiring because the people for the bermuda tedx invited me to speak they picked it i showed up and spoke hi charles have you ever been inside a vertical farm ask the kid who has a profile picture of him standing next to a vertical farm why yes i have kids standing next to a vertical farm i have indeed been in a vertical farm your opinion of janet yellen's comment on bitcoin today well i think i saw her years ago on a television show in the 90s i believe it was called dinosaurs it's a good show favorite greek island mykonos what keeps you so humble and down to earth copious consumption of drugs okay what do we got charles when do you usually go to sleep when the clowns let me hi from kansas city used to hate you guys because i was not a chiefs fan but i don't watch football anymore so it doesn't really matter [Music] do you play an instrument yes the piano badly and i got a shakahatchee flute right there maybe i'll play that you never know how many llamas are you getting well prudence says i should get four alpacas and one llama but i might get two llamas and put hats on them and i'll train one to go carl hey charles i'm from ethiopia how can i help with cardano get with john o'connor and i'm sure there's something at the office we can have you do he's right now to sababa your room needs improvement no sir i love my room it's great how are the birds about .75 hitchcock will you partner with celsius well it depends on what fahrenheit has to say in the relationship are you drunk right now yeah i'm drinking coffee delicious delicious coffee that's good all right what else you got can you use python to make gaps on cardano i'm sure one of these days people are going to figure that out hi charles are you guys talking to the indian government we are not but manmeet singh is one of the members of the cardano foundation council and he's intimately familiar with indian politics he is from there his parents were diplomats and i'm sure that he's made some great inroads it's a closed economy to me and it doesn't seem to be terribly crypto friendly but cardano's a global movement and what's great about catalyst is it can provide resources for local entrepreneurs to build in jurisdictions just like that so it will come it will come okay can we build a flutter plug-in flutter as in dart don't see any reason why not it's great language how are the anti-aging drugs treating oh they're just great me and my third leg are just wonderful hi charles did you see the united airlines incident in colorado not only i see it the engine landed literally in the city i grew up in broomfield crazy absolutely crazy have you been to mexico many times i love monterey hmm how does one become a cryptographer is it too late at 24 it is not too late at all you need to have strong math background and a strong computer science background and if you do my recommendation is to go ahead and read john katz's introduction to modern cryptography if you love that book and it's your favorite thing in the whole wide world then go ahead and take the university of maryland coursera specialization on information security which includes a dedicated course on cryptography if you still love it and it's the best thing since sliced bread you're probably either going to be an infosec guy or you're going to be a cryptographer okay and they do very very very different things so go to a graduate program in information security or apply for a graduate program in cryptography and based upon the level of mathematical acumen you have and if you like writing proofs and doing theory and writing papers versus practical and applied systems will tell you a lot about where you fall in those two things but just by reading john's book it's going to tell you whether you got the chops or not and that is the rest of the story are you from maryland oh god no no no no no no no no no no no i haven't been stabbed enough i'm from hawaii have you ever met or spoken to elon musk both what is your best advice on how to study and learn learn the zettlecaston z-e-t-t-e-l-k-a-s-t-i-n i believe note-taking system how about that didn't see that one coming did you yeah it's left field what's up is the singularity near i have no idea charles please explain fixed supply in the 45 billion total supply oh yeah very very easy we it fixed and 44 billion 999 999 was too little and 45 billion and one was too much abram's tank [Music] cake [Music] how many languages do you speak barely one you need a flashing blue light and a cop hat and you could do cops i got to be honest with you why does everybody who's arrested on cops not have a shirt on is it like some property of the show that your shirt has to come off before you get arrested you guys ever noticed that exactly what i'm talking about are you treating someone to a loan today yes sir i am every ama we're doing a kiva loan zimbabwe of any interest to you we need your help desperately proud zimbabwean here always rhodesia to me zimbabwe was destroyed by mugabe and the best thing ever to happen in that country is he's gone so i'm very happy to see that there's a potential for zimbabwe to repair itself anytime the government goes around starts stealing property from people and reallocating assets you're going to destroy your economy within 10 years there are no exceptions to that none that i can find and it's just a sad situation parachains on dot look amazing how will cardano compete with that if they're amazing we'll just take them they use the same consensus protocol as us that's the danger of copying your competitors they can copy you back no gavin's a good guy i'm glad that they've done some interesting things that's fun charles recommend us a book okay let's see what i got on my table oh this is a fun one you guys are gonna love this one this is from charles petzl the annotated turing it's one of those cheat books where what he did is he took alan turing's very famous paper that created that invented or discovered depending upon where your philosophy sits the turing machine and he annotated it so he included a few chapters that discuss all the preliminaries to really understand why such a big deal and then he goes through line by line in the paper and he talks a little bit about it and shows you how to really understand what alan turing was talking about so if you're ever studying computing and you actually want to go to graduate school on it this is a really really good paper to start building some foundations great paper highly a great book highly recommend it you'll actually understand what turning complete is all about well enough to talk about it at cocktail parties is cardano susceptible to a pnp solution the same way bitcoin is do you even [ __ ] know what that means honestly do you really really just just heard about it just read it in the wikipedia page i want to sound smart today i want to talk about pnp you people crack me up you really do what is your opinion on warren buffett he is the living incarnation of benjamin graham's value investing he read that book nine million times and indoctrinated it charles are you grumpy today nor more so than normal who you calling you people the people that talk about pnp p and p it's dynamite what do you think about jeff bezos quitting as a ceo well he's not really quitting he's just con finishing his conversion to super villain so he put a bid on a volcanic island and now he's breeding some sort of race of dinosaur people i for one welcome our new dinosaur masters do you think machines could ever be conscious so what do about consciousness brett like what is consciousness let's really get into that is it required for intelligence is intelligence consciousness and is consciousness an implication of free will did you really think about the philosophical implications of it maybe maybe not who knows i don't know is consciousness an after effect of the operation of our brain or is consciousness necessary for our brains to function could we be not conscious in the sense that we are today but intelligent much like dan dennis zombie or must we be conscious for us to be able to have goals and desires or are our goals and desires actually predetermined but we just are unaware because we don't have enough consciousness to understand dispassionately that we're slaves to some sort of deterministic programming so the long short is machines do not need to be conscious for artificial general intelligence and stuart russell actually wrote a very lovely book called the problem of control that actually discusses this and consciousness is something that many ai experts don't even care about or think too much about or attempt to replicate because it seems to be unnecessary for goal-driven behavior do you have a favorite historical figure no sir i do not i love you too quicksilver outdoors fibonacci sequence one one two three oh you guys from dan chapman what is hardware support for catalyst we are right now looking into that we're thinking about that it doesn't look it's terribly difficult to do it so we are extending the vacuum labs contract to be able to put in a hack that would let us do that easily so if i had to guess i'd say quarter two with the next firmware update charles a team or night rider a team and i pity the fool who don't understand why i have to get on my pity train favorite philosopher bertrand russell i was actually just talking about him today we had a lovely seminar with leslie lamport he comes on in it was the it it was interesting he was a little conservative a little like who are these guys he's feeling out the room but his heart grew three sizes too big and by the end of it he had way too much fun and we'll have him back on he was actually lecturing about how to write a proof and he was telling this to a bunch of mathematicians and computer scientists and physicists and guess what it was amazing we learned a huge amount we had so much fun we asked him some cool questions and the cool part was that i got to mention a few things so he he in the presentation said hell well it's not the hardest thing in the world is like proving two plus two equals four and i said sir on this day february 22nd 1910 bertrand russell and alfred north whitehead published principia mathematica volume 1 which in it laid the foundations over a thousand pages long for proving that 1 plus 1 equals two with their system the combination of logic and set theory and arithmetic and also just magical ways of course that formula has fallen out of use and by modern mathematicians but it was a titanic achievement which took years of work and and so i i pointed it out to dr lamport i said hang on a second here it's quite difficult to prove these things and exactly what i'm talking about but levity aside it was a great moment and we really had a lot of fun and it's rare he's 79 years old and i grew up with his papers and i grew up looking at these guys and when i was a lot younger they were in their 50s late 50s and now they're in their late 70s and it's not going to be too long until they're in their late 80s carp is 86. donald newthy's like 900 but he won't die until he writes his last book and it'll crumble into dust a skeksis emperor but yeah it's kind of humbling and surreal to be able to interact with them they're living legends and it was a great honor to have him speak hey mr hoskinson what if you want to get into cryptography but you have poor math skills don't you believe it will need some front and selling of these systems the average customers no you do not get into cryptography if you have poor math skills mathematics and cryptography are required they're together you can't separate them they live in the same house they date the same women what you can do is you can become a salesman so learn a little bit about computer science and learn about the application of cryptography and learn a little bit about information security you don't sell crypto you sell is that kind of stuff and you'll need a little bit of math but not a whole lot but don't even think about calling yourself a cryptographer if your math skills up not for pi par do you think president biden has signs of cognitive decline or symptoms of dementia yeah there's pretty good evidence of that applied or theoretical mass both antio either or i mean phd implied math phd and pure mass you're rigorous enough favorite pink floyd album wish you were here how often do you think about death years ago i read a book from ernest becker like man's denial of death or denial of death or something like that and the high and the kind of the construction of the book is that death is the key driver of human behavior so everything in life is horrible they're all trying to kill each other we survive by devouring the flesh of other creatures and other creatures would eat us in a heartbeat if they had the means to do so and this is psychologically terrifying if we really deeply think about it so what we do is we construct all kinds of distractions and structures to allow us to do two things one to not think about death and two to find a way to transcend death either through some sort of system of functional immortality where we create a legacy we put our name on buildings we name theorems after ourselves we start families and have kids and the kids remember us and carry on the legacy or through fantastical metaphysical psychological delusions so we invent religions and so that's the becker construction of the four things life terrifying terrifying scary most of the ills of society are immortality cults and then usually these immortality cults are in conflict with each other and that's what causes the evils of the world so the acceptance of death regardless of how horrific it may be actually allows you to transcend and reach a new state where you are at peace regardless of when you go or how you go now a lot of us say oh well i was easy for ernest becker to write down he's probably one of those armchair philosophers well he wrote that book while dying of cancer and died shortly thereafter so he certainly was confronting his mortality head-on with courage are you a golfer and if so what's your handicap i am a golfer but not very good and i won't tell you is the flair network a threat to proof of stake no love seeing your chrono trigger post on twitter have you played any of the suduken games suey kochden there we go yeah i think that's the way you pronounce it no didn't even pronounce it right so you kind of got your answer there did you do you drive lambo yes this is the highest question i have read all night do you like kid a or ok computer or in rainbows are these like bad names i'm missing some context here or you are so high flavor county so high favorite kubrick film 2001 space odyssey full metal jacket was amazing as well and i can't complain about eyes wide shut i want to drive a lambo one day working hard to get there do not have a goal of driving a lambo have a goal of living well i'd tell you i'd trade everything if i wasn't how do you like your eggs they're great eggs howdy bob bobo do you watch anime no oh have you heard of the easterland paradox is that the mandela effect no i have not something i don't know which is hard to learn computer science or math math what's up with all the greeks on the iohk team i'm greek by the way justice we have a greek chief scientist and once you get one they just keep coming actually i love we even have an office in greece it's at university of athens did you read how to avoid a climate crisis by bill gates well no and it just came out and i can already tell you what's in it we have to fundamentally change every aspect of our lives no matter how small your toothbrush has to be made out of corn plastic everything must be sustainable and because the only way to get there is mammoth government regulation we have to build a transnational framework of super governments that control every domain and aspect of your life to save the planet or we could just go and the arctic can build a bunch of carbon scrubbers that suck the carbon right out of the air powered by geothermal and nuclear but bill likes government my favorite computer game is arcanum do you also love minesweeper and what are your best times oh man i remember that windows 95 for the win favorite cartoon robot man was just great when i was a kid i read that rocky mountain news in the comic section i also kind of liked garfield but it got old and repetitive over time but actually my favorite cartoon was far side from gary larson absolutely phenomenal i love that humor school for the gifted trying to push the door that's supposed to be for pull [Music] favorite piano song chopin's nocturnes they're the most fun to play do vedic mass i have a whole book on it sir please come to pakistan been there years ago gilgit beautiful place [Music] [Music] i think that might fix the lighting a little bit damn it it still didn't that's great okay did you ever play mist yeah i did as a kid [Music] charles when lex friedman i believe june 11th is your wi-fi flashing no sir it is not what the hell are you wearing it's called the yukata you reach a certain stage in life where you just don't care anymore and you get away with it because you just don't care anymore how did you come up with the name gogan it's named after a famous computer scientist so i i have a rule you hashgraph people coming to my channels and you ask me hashgraphy questions and honestly i'm never going to answer them because i don't care if it's patented i don't consider it real so the minute that they open source things and no one can control it then i'll actually read their white paper and pay attention to them this is not a repudiation of the project's technology or the code or your things that you've implemented and the business you've done it's just i see no difference between that and a database just honestly don't how often do you have time to watch tv i don't watch tv did you listen to daft punk only the tron albums favorite liquor does whiskey count is that a liquor yeah i think it is whiskey how many digits of pie can you remember [Music] three point one four one five nine two six five three five eight nine seven nine three two three eight four six two six four three three eight three two seven nine five zero two eight eight four one nine seven one that's as far as i got [Music] mm-hmm baldar's gate one of the best games ever made mit harvard princeton yale stanford which one and why none of the above obviously it's c boulder the greatest university ever created why colorado well it's always warm and setting in colorado that's why i go to csu well it's okay no one's perfect how is important is the university for you not at all don't care charles thoughts on felis dlt systems like iot and like iota and nano i don't really care about them you got to pay fees somewhere someone always pays the fee favorite stress relief well obviously amas [Music] come on guys give me some good questions here this make me sad these questions come on do you use the brave browser yes i only recently became brave enough do you fish i do sir do you prefer tea or coffee both i've been drinking a lot of matcha lately aliens yes or no yes no didn't mean to click that one mars attacks or cone heads boy that's actually a very hard one probably mars attacks but i really liked coneheads bulletproof coffee in the morning do you grow your own facial hair no i actually buy it from russell crowe it's a very expensive process it requires a lot of shaving extraction yeah it's it's work it's work charles why ghana actually i have story about that years ago when i lived in japan there was a bar called good times in osaka and i used to go into that bar probably twice three times a week and it's a guy who ran it he was named eddie and he was from ghana older gentleman and it was a reggae bar and i just hang out there because one of the few places i go that late at night where everybody spoke english and i liked it so eddie and i would talk and he'd tell me about ghana and he lived there 11 months a year he'd make a lot of money running his bar in ghana and excuse me in osaka and then one month a year go back to see his family and he put his kids through college he took care of his wife he took care of everybody his parents and her parents off of that money he made and he was the nicest guy i probably ever met in all of japan he he said welcome to my bar he's just the craziest guy one time i ran into him i was walking down the street it's one of those japanese side streets and i said eddie why is your bar not open he said i'll give you the key i give you the key so he gave me the key to the bar so i take the key i went to the bar and an hour later he showed up people started coming in after i unlocked it i said well i can pour you a drink and i'll just keep track everything but anyway after getting to know him really really well he asked me what i did i said i was an entrepreneur and he said well if you're interested in africa promise me you'll do something in ghana one of these days and i said absolutely eddie i will do it one of these days and so we are going to teach a class in ghana we're going to make it pan-african so we'll invite people all throughout the continent to apply but we'll make sure we have a lot of canaans and it's going to be our most rigorous class we've ever done it's going to be haskell elixir and tla plus we have to do tla plus now because leslie lambort told us to and probably take about four to six months to get through all the pedagogy and hopefully we can hire some of our best programmers there and we'll get them to do a very special project and we'll make sure that we hire them in ghana in accra and they work there and we're gonna do that for eddie because he was so good to me for all those years and every time i come back to osaka he is always a little older every time i come but every time i go back i always see him at good times i haven't seen in a while because japan's been closed but eddie is just a seriously good guy so got us because of him do you meditate yes sir i do hmm can you talk about that brain sleeping device you talked about a few ama's ago that's called an ergo knight i have not used it as much as i ought to it's been it's been tough oh this one's a good one best advice you've ever received that's hard because it's always contextual to the circumstance but the best advice for the moment for how we're building cardano is the slow way is the fast way and now that i truly understand that my life has just gotten so much better there's always a tomorrow just do your best live in the moment and work hard and you'll always go to bed with a smile on your face you'll wake up with a smile on your face and don't go to bed angry especially with your loved ones it's amazing how true that is do you like rocky mountain oysters i love tricking people who visiting colorado into eating them this one's an interesting one charles thoughts on immortality so as many of my brother is a doctor and my brother he's going to be retiring from his current role as an internist and we're going to probably set up a company an anti-aging company we're going to study regenerative medicine regenerative biology and therapeutics and treatments for anti-aging so this one's a slow burner the game development company i haven't done any real work on the game development company because that's the lowest on the stack but the anti-aging will move a lot faster on because that's a big passion of mine and what we're going to do is we're going to look at everything we're looking at hyperbaric therapy and photobiomodulation and exosome treatments and all kinds of stuff like that and the goal will be to come up with therapeutics protocols that can slow down the aging process reverse inflammation and get people into a more more healthy state so we're going to see if we can figure that out we'll spend a few years in deep r d we'll set up an institute somewhere to study regenerative medicine and over time we'll build some therapeutics and so i'll keep you guys in loop about that but i'm actually really looking forward to getting the business was my brother this has been something i've been wanting to do for 33 years he went and did the doctor thing for a while and i'm a big dummy compared to him he's really smart and so i can't wait to work with him what's your favorite programming language probably scala security lecture update video i have not had the time to do it this is a really [ __ ] up question favorite war mine's world war ii because i see it as the most iconic battle of good versus evil there is no such thing as a favorite war you don't celebrate the death and destruction of fellow human beings and the suffering that wars cause wars are always meant to be warnings and they're the ultimate failure of diplomacy that said it's the peloponnesian denotational semantics versus operational semantics thank you sir obviously operational i'm going to get in a lot of trouble for that thoughts on ludwig von mises well his value is very subjective to me charles do you like okonomiyaki yes i do means a little bit of everything in japanese and it's the junk food of osaka how old were you when you made your first million 26 became a billionaire at 30. all that this is finally a good one if there was ever time for an epic rap battle euler versus gauss euler absolutely oiler you ask a number theorist to his favorite mathematician oiler yeah euler's identity earlier totient function he was a special guy hmm [Music] favorite rock band can you guys guess who do you guys think my favorite rock band is like real rock band i'll give you guys three guesses let's see if you can get it [Laughter] i'm sorry freddy i'm not much of a skater boy my favorite band is boston i have more than a feeling that you'll enjoy them for a long time if you listen to their music especially if you listen to with amanda number two i think yeah two are you a kanye west fan well i ain't saying she's a gold digger thoughts on nam chomsky well i'm gonna give him an obituary when he dies and you guys will find out and then i'll get brutally criticized by angry keyboard warriors telling me that they're going to sell all their ada because they politically disagree with me oh christ please charles don't ignore my question but seriously i have direct contact with the argentinian president you fancy a meeting i really do cardano can make it a better place to live in reach out to our atix guys in buenos aires and come into the office have a conversation with them and i'm sure we can figure something out always happy to talk to a head of state better programmer gavin or vitel gavin gavin by 9 million times much much much better what's the biggest mistake you've ever made i helped create ethereum who's my favorite rapper well m.